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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 1/29/2007 1:55:30 PM
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The quality of education is higher in the Catholic schools. The Catholic schools teach values and the public schools do not. Education is more than the "3Rs".
In public school, you can dress however you like. Catholic schools have a dress code.
In public school, you can curse at your teachers, smoke cigarettes, physically and verbally bully other students, write profanity on desks, skip classes, etc. and get away with it. Even if the teacher reports the problem to the parent, the parent often defends their child or says: "So what if they curse? What's the big deal?". In Catholic school, there would be consequences for such behavior.
In public school, you have some parents who are not involved in their children's lives. You have PTA meetings and it's the same group of parents showing up and doing all the work year after year. In Catholic school, the level of parent involvement is much higher.
Catholic schools generally outperform public schools on standardized tests. In Catholic school, students who have IEPs have to take standardized tests. In public school, students with IEPs are either exempt or their scores are not reported, thus giving the public school district an inflated test score average.
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 1/31/2007 12:36:48 PM
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Let's begin again. This heading of this forum is Our Lady of Lourdes. It begins with an inquiry from a family looking into that school in Malverne. I live in Malverne and can speak on the subject. Where should I begin-A fifth grade teacher at our middle school was named the NY state teacher of the Year. That means we have the BEST teacher in the state teaching some of our children. She was awarded this after a rigorous interview process by peers and educators at top levels. She is currently speaking ALL OVER the country to educators and administrators about her philosophy and teaching methods.
3 of the 4 schools in district 12 are Blue Ribbon Schools! Our middle school has narrowed the achievement gap two years running and is now being studied by schools across the nation on how to improve! Lynbrook has just come in to study our Balanced Literacy Program and called to say they will be adopting it in their schools. We are waiting on Merrick who also came in to see if they do the same. Our Deputy Superintendent in charge of cirriculum is a fascinating educator. She was NY state principal of the year in Elmont where she had near incredible successes. She placed 4th in that competition on a national level. She has been Hofstra Educator of the month and received the TOH Pathfinder award for education. She co-authored a book about supporting teachers and had in three short years made Malverne the next school to "look at." Take a look at how our scores are trending higher year over year and the philosophy of our educators on the Malverne UFSD web site and try again to tell me I made the wrong decision.
How dare parents let their kids ride a skateboard or go to Wendy's-what are they thinking!
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 1/31/2007 6:08:33 PM
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My point is that these kids are hanging out skateboarding, loitering and causing trouble. They have NO parent supervision because their parents are too lazy and can't be bothered. These kids should be doing something productive like studying, having an after-school job or be involved in extra-curricular activities. I think that parents who let their kids run around own unsupervised have a lot of nerve and are irresponsible parents.
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 1/31/2007 6:12:15 PM
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Rising public school test scores are meaningless when the tests and the curriculum are "dumbed down" every year. "Blue ribbons" don't impress me. The teacher's union is a monopoly. Administrators live like kings with bloated salaries and other perks, paid for by struggling suckers called taxpayers.
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 2/20/2007 5:35:39 PM
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Not for anything yes that teacher was awarded Teacher of the year but I know for a fact she lived in Malverne and at the time her children could attend the public schools... she sent them to Catholic school, claiming it was a better choice considering where they would attend..... Malverne's residence (not all) do have a WHITE FLIGHT issue with the public school. I recommend the Public school system.. I do think that where you put your child does make a difference although the kind of home life they will have to come home to and learn from their own parents and their parents opinions on race and religion is a big influence also.
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 2/21/2007 10:43:02 PM
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You are just automatically assuming it is "white flight". There are NO African-Americans in our local public school. There are many African-Americans in the Catholic school that my Caucasian children attend.
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/14/2007 10:15:31 PM
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I just logged onto this site and am reading all previous posts. I am surprised about the amount of hostility. People send their children to a particular school for numerous reasons - hopefully informed reasons. Some parents want the extra religion that is taught in Catholic school. Some parents want the smaller class sizes and teachers that excel in a particular subject that they find in public school. We should respect each other's decisions about where we choose to send our children. To group all public school parents as "lazy" and to suggest that public school children can "curse and skip classes" and not be held accountable is untrue. While picking up my children at OLL Religious Education, I've heard some interesting profanity from the OLL children that attend their after school program. (I guess Catholic school parents might have to work also). Kids will be kids.
As far as skateboarding and riding bikes around the neighborhood - I feel fortunate that I live in a community where it is safe for children to go outside and play without having to have "structured" playtime. Kind of like when we were kids.
My children go to school in Malverne. They love their friends and teachers. The class sizes are small - the school only has approx. 300 children - it feels like family. I'm sure that OLL parents enjoy many benefits from their school also. What does upset public school parents are people who give their opinion about Malverne schools because of what they heard from "somebody." Or things that are said about the school from people that never set foot in one or did any research about the school.
Different schools for different families. Thank God we live in America where we get to chose how to educate our children without always having to defend our choices.
Michel
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/15/2007 5:40:10 PM
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I admired the reply from guest Michel. She apparently is well informed on both Catholic and Public school education.. DJN
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/16/2007 4:02:18 AM
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Skateboarding and riding around the neighborhood is one thing. Destroying people's property while doing so, loitering, being unsupervised is another.
The decent people in our neighborhood have to live like prisoners because some of the
Cursing is unacceptable behavior, no matter where the children attend school. But you can curse at a teacher and get away with it in a public school. Public school children have no respect for authority.
To say that "kids will be kids" is wrong.
Whenll you foolish, lazy, stupid, irresponsible parents wake up?
You let your kids run around unsupervised. Some day one of them will wind up kidnaped and murdered and then you'll be sorry.
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/16/2007 4:08:03 AM
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And all the little darlings in public school don't curse, right? Give me a break.
Yes, Catholic school parents work.
CCD is a joke. The kids attend a few classes every few years, run around the school building, learn nothing but a few prayers and then have a big party when they receive the sacraments. I
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/16/2007 4:21:35 AM
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Actually, she's biased in favor of public school kids. There's a lot more profanity coming out of the mouths of public school kids than Catholic school kids, not to mention the sex, drugs, bullying and all the other stuff that the public school parents allow their unruly brats to engage in, because "kids will be kids."
When I go to the public middle school I see sixth graders wearing tons of makeup, tube tops, mini-skirts, tight jeans, etc. I would never allow my child to attend school dressed that way. The public school kids are disrespectful to their teachers. They curse, answer back rudely, etc. and nothing is done about it because their parents think that "kids will be kids" and that nothing is wrong with such behavior.
The Catholic school families are generally much classier than the public school families. You see the values passed on from one generation to the next. There are a handful of public school kids that attend CCD regularly, but most of them just show up for Communion and Confirmation.
Yes, Catholic school parents work. Many of them are CEOs, doctors and lawyers.
Long Island public schools celebrate Chanukah but not Christmas. That is discrimination against Christians.
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/16/2007 4:23:30 AM
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It's too bad that your religion is not more important to you.
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/16/2007 10:02:46 AM
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At 4 o'clock in the morning your on your computer. What were you searching Yahoo personals while your husband is asleep. LOSER
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/16/2007 11:04:34 AM
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Apparently my post was unfavorable.
In response to some of the accusations that were written:
While I don't approve of children cursing, if you think that your children never have that would be foolish on your part. Just because I heard a OLL boy cursing while outside playing does not mean that I think less of the school.
I am not biased toward public schools. It is a personal choice. I grew up in an affluent community where the public schools were great. My parents chose to send me to Catholic grammer school. I was also a SHA girl. I see the advantages in both public and private school.
The foolish, lazy, stupid comment- I'm not even going to address. This website is for people to obtain information about schools in the area - not for parents to insult each other.
As far as you being classier, if you publish your name I would be happy for you to join my family for coffee and cake. My guess is that an afternoon with us would change your mind. And by the way, if you need a dentist, airline pilot, electrician, police officer, fireman, cardiac nurse, florist, doctor or lawyer just let me know. I'll call a parent of a classmate for you.
My religion is very important to me. While my children do get just one hour of week of formal education (apparently you have a problem with the Religious Ed that is being taught to my children at your school) they live in a Catholic home enviroment where Christian principles are used in everyday acitivities. When you are at church this week take a look at the choir. Perhaps you will see some non-OLL children there. Just because you attend Catholic school and we attend public does not a better Christian make.
Do my children ride their bikes on our block - absolutely. They run the same risk doing that as the private school children walking to OLL.
Reading these angry, anonymous posts have me worried about the parents of some of my childrens friends. (yes they do have friends at OLL & OLP) What influence is being put upon my children while they are at the homes of friends that attend Catholic school. Are they not accepted just because they go to public school. I find that hard to believe. I'm also curious as to the timing of the posts. Four posts between 4:02am and 4:23am. Are there really 4 people up that early in the morning checking this website? Or is it just one person with an agenda? I really don't need an answer - I won't be logging onto this site anymore. It saddens me that there are people in my neighborhood that would think their children are "better" than mine just because of the school they attend.
Michel
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/16/2007 3:19:10 PM
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I agree that it is time to stop logging into this board on this subject. It is easy to analyze due to the timing of when these posts are sent (early
morning and/or consecutive posts within 5 minutes) that you can differentiate between the destructive and constructive guests. Apparently the majority of negative opinions are from a sole individual who is quite frustrated. I am sure the parents of post #1 have by now made their decision where to send their children to school and it probably will not be in Malverne. A suggestion for this board would be all subscribers should be required to post their E-Mail address or some other form of identification. As an outsider looking in I would like to take Michel's offer for coffee and cake for her comments were very constructive. Is she a member of the Board of Education in Malverne? If so I will never know since she said she was signing off. Regards DJN
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/19/2007 5:57:17 PM
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The more I read all the replies and letters listed here, the more I'm questioning just where I'm living. To think, I've been a Malverne resident for 14 years and these people are my neighbors! For all I know, I convese with them quite often. For I am a Malverne resident, user of the public school system as well as the OLL CCD program and the YAC/CYO sports programs. I have four children ranging in age from 6 through 14. I am actively involved with the public school system--presently having children in two of the three levels of schools. The parent bashing on this site is not what it was intended for. As Michel has said, we, as parents, make an informed decision upon where our children attend school for personal reasons. My reasons are no more important than any of yours and vice-versa. I wish all of you "guests" would sign your names, talking and bashing anonymously is easy.
Suzanne St. John
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 3/25/2007 11:02:55 AM
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I would like the opportunity to speak with you about your perception of the Malverne public schools. I have no intention of debating which system is better. As Michel and Suzanne both stated they are personal choices based on a families desires and should not be discriminated against. I do have a strong desire to inform you about some of the misconceptions you seem to have about Malverne public schools. Every time you post you defame our village and potentially effect your property value. You should constrain yourself to speaking positively about the school you do use as opposed to trashing the ones you don't. I assure you Mr. Zimbler would never tolerate profanity or disrespect from a middle schooler.
Feel free to e mail me at Projectenrollnow@hotmail.com. We can have a constructive, positive conversation and hopefully I can help better inform you about what goes on inside our school buildings.
Gina Genti
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 5/8/2007 8:11:22 AM
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I happened to stumble on this site- I do not live on Long Island - and am SO HAPPY to see people PROUD of their Catholic School environment. My 4 sons attend and are getting a quality education in a loving environment with structure and discipline. I am proud of the young men they are becoming and yes, Catholic schools have an impact on that.
I don't understand why people have to put Catholic School down?
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 6/1/2007 6:42:13 PM
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the school was absolutley dredfull. I had better chances sending my kids to the horribly public schools in my district. I'am no t telling you to not send your kid(s) to Our Lady of Lourdes.
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RE: Our Lady of Lourdes - 9/4/2007 10:56:44 PM
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Wow - I stumbled upon this site while looking for OLL-CYO information.
Three main points to consider when posting:
1. Get all your facts straight and do not just use your emotions when posting. Both Catholic and Public schools have pluses and minues. It is up to you as the parent to educate yourself on what will be right for your family and your child. I attended Malverne schools through grade 8 and then went to SHA for high school. Both choices were right for me and my parents did a great job!
2. Please proofread and do not make personal, infantile attacks.
3. Sign your name or log off.
Regards,
Lori Lang
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